Re: Pole Shifts - Should We Care?

In Article <q6Ca7.276$5z5.19798@reggie.win.bright.net> Thomas McDonald
wrote:
>> On what basis do you claim that ... tundra is
>> unable to sustain grass or vegetation?  Tundra,
>> in the Arctic summer, is a rich source of grass
>> and other high arctic plant life.  ... That
>> mammoths have been found with warm-weather,
>> high-arctic vegetation undigested in their guts
>> merely means that the animals died while, or
>> shortly after, feeding, and were frozen quickly
>> (perhaps in a depression in the ground or other
>> location that was sheltered from the sun).

Ah, I see, they ate moss and lichens, currently growing in the polar
circle.  Not so.  Walked into a depression in the middle of a meal and
were frozen so completely they did not decompose.  Not so, as they DID
NOT THAW thereafter!  Also, per a Dutch scientist currently working on
the project, the Discovery Channel mammoth had a common Siberian SPRING
FLOWER in its gut, a flower not able to live in the polar circle, a
flower that blooms only in the spring.  So how did this huge herbivor,
which ate leaves and grass, manage to die in the spring, get frozen
solid so quickly that there was zero decay, and remain frozen if it was
supposedly, per you, in an area that sustained moss and lichens during
the summer months? See below:

Earth in Upheaval, by Velikovsky
    In 1797 the body of a mammoth, with flesh, skin, and hair,
    was found in northeastern Siberia. The flesh had the
    appearance of freshly frozen beef; it was edible, and
    wolves and sled dogs fed on it without harm. The ground
    must have been frozen ever since the day of their
    entombment; had it not been frozen, the bodies of the
    mammoths would have putrefied in a single summer, but
    they remained unspoiled for some thousands of years. In
    some mammoths, when discovered, even the eyeballs were
    still preserved. (All) this shows that the cold became
    suddenly extreme .. and knew no relenting afterward.
    In the stomachs and between the teeth of the mammoths
    were found plants and grasses that do not grow now in
    northern Siberia .. (but are) .. now found in southern
    Siberia.

Utah Centennial Studies
http://www.uen.org/Centennial/
    Although they were large creatures, woolly mammoths
    fed on plants. They ate willow, fir, and alder leaves. They
    also ate the leaves from bushes. We know what the woolly
    mammoth ate because complete dead animals have been
    found in Siberia. When the stomach contents were
    examined many different kinds of leaves were found.
    Woolly mammoths probably used their tusks to clear snow
    from the ground so they could get at their food.

    Why did the mammoth become extinct?

    No one is quite sure why woolly mammoths became extinct.
    Various suggestions have been made. It could have been due
    to changes in the climate.

Science World web site
Fantastic Fossil Finds.
Miguel Vilar, March 6, 2000

    Frigid winds and temperatures are no big deal to Jarkov, a
    9-year-old reindeer hunter who roams northern Siberia's tundra, a
    sub-arctic treeless region with frozen soil. What did seem peculiar
    one day in 1997 was the object he found in recently melted ice: a
    weird furry rock protruding from the ground. .... Jarkov's 
    discovery turned out to be no rock, but part of the head of a
    giant wooly mammoth, a species that has been extinct for 10,000 years.
    Ice had perfectly preserved the specimen. Suddenly scientists
    from around the world converged on Siberia. For two years they
    scraped away frozen soil to unearth a 47-year old male wooly
    mammoth. Its tissue was so intact that scientists had to fight the
    acrid smell of elephant feces. ... "Jarkov" the mammoth (named
    after its discoverer) fossilized through quick freezing. 
    Fossilization by ice requires a sudden plunge in temperature almost 
    immediately after an animal or plant's death.