ZetaTalk: sci.astro debates: Re: Hale-Bopp THEN and NOW

Re: Hale-Bopp THEN and NOW

Article: <5enoqj$76k@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>
From: saquo@ix.netcom.com(Nancy )
Subject: Re: Hale-Bopp THEN and NOW
Date: 22 Feb 1997 21:35:15 GMT

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In article <5elddl$11fc@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Jim Scotti writes:
> We don't know the whole story and I don't expect that we ever
> will, but we sure can learn a lot about how nature works and to
> me, that's as beautiful as a picture of the Orion Nebula
> or Yosemite Park!
> jscotti@LPL.Arizona.EDU (Jim Scotti)
> Jim Scotti
> Lunar & Planetary Laboratory
> University of Arizona
> Tucson, AZ 85721 USA
> http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/

Interesting that your should combine those two phenomena, Jim. The Zetas refer to BOTH frequently, as quoted below. What is YOUR explaination for mountain building, the type of force that would sheer solid rock a mile thick as is on display in the cliffs at Yosemite, Jim?

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ZetaTalk: Past Cataclysms

The Earth bears witness to the cataclysms in her past and their periodic occurrence. Beyond her deep wound in the Pacific basin, and beyond the drift of her continents, there are scars more palpable by man.

Mountain cliffs, which rise sheer in many cases thousands of feet, represent tearing of solid rock. These stands before mankind, who even make a hobby of scaling their heights, ignored in their deeper meaning. Have any experiments been done to determine how much force would be required to tear rock of this depth? None have. The reason lies in the equally deep desire of mankind to avoid thinking about the Earth's past cataclysms.

Beneath the sea in the Bahamas lies evidence of civilizations that went under the waves - highways and highway markers, clearly manmade. These areas have been explored by many fortune hunters, recorded by camera, and published in full color repeatedly. Likewise ancient Incan cities stand so high in altitude that the cities could not have been built, much less lived in. Yet the scientific community continues to claim that Earth changes happen gently, inch by inch, at the pace experienced during the memory of their current civilization.

Antarctica bears witness to her past as a steamy swamp, and likewise the North Seas, where oil is extracted. Likewise the temperate regions are scared by what is termed the Ice Ages, where these regions were as snow and ice packed as the poles. A clue to these changes lies in the magnetism frozen in hardened lava, which demonstrates that Magnetic North and South changed now and then. Has any adequate explanation been proffered by the scientific community? None has, as all the explanations have the Earth's thin crust remaining in place, as the thought that they are standing on a raft that can move on the sea of magma beneath them is too frightening to contemplate.

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ZetaTalk: From Orion

The 12th Planet approaches from Orion, and as the timing of its approach could vary as much as a year or more, based on various influences on its long voyage, there was much concern among the mining crews operating within the Earth's Solar System that an accurate early warning system be established. We have mentioned that the Great Pyramids were a sighting devise, such that the light from the approaching 12th Planet would flood down a narrow passage and reflect off a pool of liquid, an unmistakable signal to those nervously watching and needing to synchronize their shuttle paths to their traveling home. Where the 12th Planet would arrive from the same l ocale each time, the Earth's position would change, based on where she was in her orbit around the Sun. Thus, various pieces of instructions from one trip or another remain, some seemingly in conflict with another on this facet or that, especially as the Earth's crust moved with each pole shift. There is no conflict if one considers that depending on the Earth's position, the 12th Planet would appear to veer far to the left or come in from the right, disappear behind the Sun or stand in front of it, or appear as a distant star or as the planetary giant it is.

These partial instructions involving Orion or nearby constellations such as Sirius trickle forward from the prior 12th Planet passages, which loosely compute to every 3,600 years. Given the periodic disruption in man's history, accurate yearly counts from past cataclysms are simply not available. To add to the confusion, midpoint calculations were involved as a safety check in case catastrophe struck the mining operations and their clocks were lost. These midpoint sightings were staged at the 1,800 year point, and remnants of these instructions are also found grouped in with the passage instructions. All very confusing for those trying to piece togeth er a puzzle with scant parts.
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